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  Favorite scripture in your present journey

  by Separation of Powers in

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  so, if you haven't become an atheist yet and still hold on to some form of christian based/bible based faith.

  tell us one scripture that defines where you are at right now in your spiritual journey.... .

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  Muddy Waters

  From Psalms 146:3.. "Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs..." (NWT)

  3 "Do not put your trust in princes, nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation." (new NWT)
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  To any JWs watching and reading here, please know this...

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
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  to any jws watching and reading here, please know thiis:.

  .... we know how you must be feeling so bad about being at a website like this, yet inside you are somehow questioning and not wanting to question... relax right now.. your computer won't explode -- reassuring smile -- all you are doing is asking a question or seeking an answer... right?

  isn't that how one gains knowledge, finds truth?.

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  Muddy Waters

  Thanks, Zoos. :)
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  To any JWs watching and reading here, please know this...

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
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  to any jws watching and reading here, please know thiis:.

  .... we know how you must be feeling so bad about being at a website like this, yet inside you are somehow questioning and not wanting to question... relax right now.. your computer won't explode -- reassuring smile -- all you are doing is asking a question or seeking an answer... right?

  isn't that how one gains knowledge, finds truth?.

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  Muddy Waters

  To any JWs watching and reading here, please know thiis:

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  We know how you must be feeling so bad about being at a website like this, yet inside you are somehow questioning and not wanting to question... Relax right now.

  Your computer won't explode -- reassuring smile -- all you are doing is asking a question or seeking an answer... right? Isn't that how one gains knowledge, finds truth?

  No, I'm not Satan whispering from a tree. I am a sister, a sister who had questions too, when some things just didn't seem to add up or make sense. So I questioned. Very reluctantly and with huge amounts of guilt and fear... Aways remembering "where else could I go?? This is the truth." .... Isn't it? And so you feel frightened. Maybe you will run away right now because you recognize these feelings and thoughts and fear that Satan is getting to you.

  If so, that is fine... no worries. Keep seeking Jehovah's glory, his strength, his will, all the very good and wonderful things which do come out of "this organization".... And there are many good things. If you wish, drop by again to visit when you feel more comfortable or when another burning question or doubt comes up into your heart, because really, as a thinking person, you do require answers. Or explanations. Or just to reassure yourself and confirm your faith.

  But if you think there just might, might be something strange about the Org lately or the GB are sure elevating themselves above everybody else lately... then maybe you need to hear more ...

  You may be wondering if this is really the type of truth which Jesus taught, and is this really how people should live and believe and behave if they are true Christians...? What does the Bible say? Yes, it should all go back to the Bible, shouldn't it? The real question is... Does it?

  Much love,

  Muddy

  (Muddy Waters, actually... Chose that name when I first start questioning things, when the clear, clean, sparkling waters of "truth" began to feel so confused, so non-sensical, so ever-changing... so... muddy. It was a totally confusing time, but did, and does, get better!!)
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  FOLLOW THE MONEY to the Revised NWT

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  lawsuits with big $$$ awards attached lead to schemes for raising instant revenue to offset losses.. what is the best bet?.

  read the nytimes and make a guess.. .

  http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html....

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  Muddy Waters

  You know what... This is excellent Wake-Up Information!! Let's keep this thread alive and at the top!

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  To any JWs watching and reading here, please know this:

  We know how you must be feeling so bad about being at a website like this, yet inside you are somehow questioning and not wanting to question... Relax right now.

  (Your computer won't explode, -- reassuring smile) -- all you are doing is asking a question. Right? Isn't that how one gains knowledge, finds truth?

  No, I'm not Satan whispering from a tree. I am a sister, a sister who had questions too, when some things just didn't seem to add up or make sense. So I questioned. Very reluctantly and with huge amounts of guilt and fear... Aways remembering "where else could I go?? This is the truth." .... Isn't it? And so you feel frightened. Maybe you will run away right now because you recognize these feelings and thoughts and fear that satan is getting to you.

  If so, that is fine... no worries. Keep seeking Jehovahs glory, his strength, his will, all the very good and wonderful things which do come out of "this organization".... And there are many good things. If you wish, drop by again to visit when you feel more comfortable or when another burning question or doubt comes up into your heart, because really, as a thinking person, you do require answers. Or explanations. Or just to reassure yourself and confirm your faith.

  But if you think there just might, might be something strange about the Org lately or the GB are sure elevating themselves above everybody else lately... then maybe you need to hear more ...

  You may be wondering if this is really the type of truth which Jesus taught, and is this really how people should live and believe and behave if they are true Christians...? What does the bible say? Yes, it should all go back to the Bible, shouldn't it? The real question is... Does it?

  much love,

  Muddy

  (Muddy Waters, actually... Chose that name when I first start questioning things, when the clear, clean, sparkling waters of "truth" began to feel so confused, so non-sensical, so ever-changing. It was a totally confusing time, but did, and does, get better!!)

  (sorry, just edited this to make more sense, my iPad takes great liberty with the words I'm trying to type, lol!)
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  FOLLOW THE MONEY to the Revised NWT

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  lawsuits with big $$$ awards attached lead to schemes for raising instant revenue to offset losses.. what is the best bet?.

  read the nytimes and make a guess.. .

  http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html....

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  Muddy Waters

  Wow, wow, awesome information. Thank you. Book marking.
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  Come... take the free gift of the water of life!

  by tec in

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  2. friends

  peace to you all!.

  for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).

  i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.

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  Muddy Waters

  Village girl, just have to say that I loved your post. :)
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  Come... take the free gift of the water of life!

  by tec in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  peace to you all!.

  for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).

  i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.

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  Muddy Waters

  You know, I couldn't even read this.

  I mean, i tried. I read it over and over and without having read any other comments yet, all I can say is that I now understand what Orwell might have meant when he described a certain type of speech like that of a duck quacking....
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  Come... take the free gift of the water of life!

  by tec in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  peace to you all!.

  for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).

  i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.

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  Muddy Waters

  ... Sorry, double post!
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  I extend a small measure of sympathy.

  by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  allow me to extend a minute amount of symapthy to the forum members who waited with excitement the recent special jw meeting and attended.

  perhaps it met your expectations?.

  and, i almost, repeat, almost, feel sorry for those poor sods who deem it necessary to read the so called 'new' jw bible translation, and searching for all of the 'differences' from past releases.

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  Muddy Waters

  Holy Cheeses, you said, "..... I enjoy reading about the depth of the crap that jws immerse themselves. I love learning of the grief that befalls jws due to their 'adherence to the faith'...."

  We'll, if you enjoy reading about the 'depth of crap' and love learning of the 'grief that befalls JWs', then you, sir, are contemptible and lacking in compassion and basic human decency. I realize some of us are still learning or trying to figure out what that even means, but let this reaction help teach you about what that means....
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  ANNOUNCING the Amazon.com KINDLE version of my BOOK

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.amazon.com/i-wept-rivers-babylon-ebook/dp/b00fmhq4gk/ref=sr_1_1_title_0_main?s=books&ie=utf8&qid=1380884339&sr=1-1&keywords=i+wept+by+the+rivers+of+babylon+terry+walstrom.

  i wept by the rivers of babylon is now instantly availabe at amazon.. i published the 6x9 trade paperback version last monday and the e-book book (non-kindle) versions.. http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/m0rtslaw.

  i hope the decent reviews are posted before the customary savage knee-jerk jehovah's witness crew jumps on and finds the juggular.. .

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  Muddy Waters

  Whew, that was a bit tricky for me, lol. Amazon does not have a kindle version yet, so I went to Lulu, but couldn't open your book (I am on a Mac) till I downloaded the ePub Reader app.
  
  So, am off to read your book now! Congratulations on your book, Terry. :)